Our guest today is an internationally recognized Holistic Stress Management and Natural Intuition development mentor, published author and actively tours the globe sharing energy healing experiences and trainings with heart-centered organizations like tech giant AT&T, local boutique business teams, and driven yet empathic solo-entrepreneurs.

After growing up watching her family experience the creative excitement and the soul-crushing depression it takes to be in business as an entrepreneur, she realized in spite of general society telling all of us entrepreneurs to just “get a job” in light of the stress we feel, she was meant to teach entrepreneurs how to heal from the stress.

She believes we are born different.

Highly sensitive. Empathic. Intuitive. Creative..Energetic.
But, somewhere along the line we didn’t get an education on how to manage that high energy in a healthy way. So we just scramble to “figure it out” as we go, finding ourselves on a burnout hamster wheel.

She’s the author of (Amazon: Natural Intuition Now: Book One – Uplevel Your Life by Awakening Your Innate Spiritual Senses.) where she shares the effective system she developed that consistently transforms your natural sensitivity from being your greatest weakness into your greatest strength.

Featured in: Himalayan Institute, the Spirituality Center, Sacred Grove, and The Infinite Impact Method to name a few, please welcome to the show “Sensei Victoria Whitfield”

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Jeffrey: Welcome to the light and your launch podcast today, we're talking about navigating the emotional roller coaster of entrepreneurship. So stay tuned,

Jeffrey: Welcome back to this show. I'm Jeffrey summer. I'm back again with Katie Collins. And today we want to talk about using the power of strategic meditation to stay grounded through all the ups and downs of building your own business. Katie, who are we speaking with to today?

Katie: Our guest today is an internationally recognized holistic stress management and natural intuition development mentor, a published author and actively tours. The globe sharing energy healing, experiences, and trainings with heart centered organizations like tech giant at and T local boutique business teams and driven yet empathetic solo entrepreneurs.

After growing up, watching her family experience the creative exciting. And the soul crushing depression, it takes to be in business. As an entrepreneur, she realized in spite of general society telling all of us entrepreneurs to just get a job in light of the stress, we feel she was meant to teach entrepreneurs how to heal from the stress.

She believes that we are born different, highly sensitive empathy, empathic, intuitive, creative energy. But somewhere along the line, we didn't get an education on how to manage that high energy in a healthy way. So we just scrambled to figure it out. As we go finding ourselves on a burnout hamster wheel, she's the author of natural intuition.

Now book one, up-level your life by awakening, your innate spiritual senses, where she shares the effective system she developed that consistently transforms your natural sensitivity from being your greatest weakness. Into your greatest strength featured in the Haim Himalayan Institute, the spirituality center, sacred Grove and the infinite impact method.

To name a few, please. Welcome to the show sensei, Victoria Whitfield.

Jeffrey: welcome to the show.

Sensei Victoria: It's such a pleasure to get to be here. Jeffrey, Katie. This is awesome.

Katie: Awesome. We're glad you're here.

Jeffrey: Yeah. You know, so I want to start right off really. I saw a staggering or alert, alarming statistic on your website. Um, statistics show that entrepreneurs are 30% more likely to be clinically depressed than the average person and that 72% of entrepreneurs struggle with mental health problems. Can you break that down?

Like why, why is this such, why is starting your own business so bad for you?

Sensei Victoria: yeah.

Oh my goodness. So like looking at the statistics on entrepreneurial depression, I mean, I highly recommend that as just a slap that in Google and see what you get, because those were actually more conservative numbers. It's pretty shocking. Um, How the studies have sewn comparative study after comparative study, that entrepreneurship really is an emotional rollercoaster and can take a toll on a person's mental health, but yes, also even their physical health, um, as well, right.

It puts pressure on us mentally because the entrepreneur is here to see. Problems. And in order to be here to solve problems, we have to be problems oriented, right. Or problem sensitive and picking up on problems or being oriented to problems can really, gosh. Can can really start to have a person running on their adrenaline quite a bit. um,

we add more to our plates creatively, uh, than the average person, because there's always something, right. There's always something, uh, that grabs our attention. And with that sensitivity, that natural sensitivity and affinity to want to solve problems. Yeah. Causes A person to really, I think, run on all cylinders and it takes a toll.

It takes a toll.

Jeffrey: A hundred percent. What are some of the tolls? Like I know, I know people out there saying like, I'm already raising my hand, like it's a stress job. Right. But w what kind of things are in your line of work? Do you see people experiencing the outcome of this stress and running on adrenaline and things like that?

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. So, um, a big factor in this, by the way, is the addictive personality that is intrinsic to the successful, like properly wired entrepreneur.

Jeffrey: Um,

Sensei Victoria: versus gatherer, right? A hunter is more of an entrepreneur. A gatherer is more of an employee. So the entrepreneurial. The tolls that can, what are the, all the tools that?

comes on being a hunter, right? Or being a seeker hunting. There's a. There's fatigue and exhaustion. Um,

physically, as well as mentally, there's a lack of sleep, which has all kinds of secondary effects, but that, um, usually that second wind comes after midnight, uh, or the downloads, uh, or how do you say the insights of what's the next right step or what's the next big thing to invest in pursue, et cetera.

Follows you into the shower, follows you into the bedroom. You're trying to like go to the toilet and you're like, ah, no, I need like my pet and pet. You're always on as an entrepreneur. And there's with that always on this. Being the hunter, if you're not experiencing, um, traction, right. Things progressing and getting better, right.

Growing maturing or the funnel converting, right. Or hitting it with the messaging and the copy. Uh, that's natural, by the way, to the creative process, you know, uh, gosh, Vango painted. Thousands of paintings and only sold to in his lifetime. Right? So it's like to have the ability to have the stamina, to keep creating or to keep innovating or to keep problem-solving.

It can really affect a person because if you are. Comfortable with failing or open to failing. Like if you have a lot of pride and passion and purpose, um, and self identity, I'm hearing to say if, if it, your ability to deliver. Uh, is what creates your identity, like creates your personality and you're not delivering, or it's not delivering on the level of promise. This can really affect a person's mental state and bring on depression, um, insecurity. Um, and with that addictive personality of the hunter mentality. Bring in all of the addictions. Right? So I'll just name mine. Let me just all a little just main name, mine. Some of, some of the ones that I have released drinking, smoking, um, recreational chemicals.

Um, so those are the ones that I have released. How about, uh, gluten sugar, uh, working on releasing those shopping, working, uh, researching learning. I'm even going to put coaching and masterminding in there as like idea generation as addictions. So it's what happened. This, uh, the entrepreneurial mindset is you're wired to be that hunter and go out and really be on the front lines, um, to solve problems.

That's the purpose of the entrepreneurs. Their gift is they're really sensitized to seeing how can things be better? How can we better serve the community? Uh, but that can really, uh, weigh on a person's health, let alone, then the social stream. That comes with, are you kidding me? Can't we just do things the way that we always have.

Why do you always have to make a suggestion? What are you crazy? Right? The or the, the visionary, meaning that the future minded person for people who aren't future minded, the visionary world. Be the crazy person's like, seriously, like, why are you, why are you trying to take us down or space? Right. Or what are you doing?

Like, why don't you just stay here and focus on gathering with the

Jeffrey: Hmm.

Sensei Victoria: of us? Um, it's, it's a real challenging position to be called to, uh, being an entrepreneur.

Jeffrey: Yeah, for sure. You, so speaking of this idea of the hunter gatherer kind of thing, do you feel in your, in your work, do you feel that there are gatherers that are trying to be hunters and that might kind of lead to a problem?

Sensei Victoria: all right. Now that question is dripping. Thank you. Yeah. Oh yeah. So that be a yes. That would be a yes, especially. Um, oh man. I'm so excited to get, to throw some rocks. I, so I'm a Reiki master teacher. I'm in four different traditions in counting. I'll be studying it for the rest of my life. Um, sensei in Japanese means teacher, uh, doesn't mean I'm going to kick your butt.

Although I do box down. And I do have a pair of brass knuckles that I practice with, but that's not why I'm a sensei

Jeffrey: it means you could kick our butt if you want it to that's

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. If I wanted to, if I wanted to Yeah.

Katie: make that very clear

Sensei Victoria: Yeah, but that's not why in the west it's so hysterical. People like will come up and bow to me because I'm to set. I'm like, don't do that in Japan. Like the kindergarten teachers, it said sensei to you. Don't like bow on it. Well, maybe you should

Jeffrey: Yeah, maybe the do.

Sensei Victoria: kindergarten teachers. But anyway, like, um, this for me. The body of my personal learning, uh, around dealing with my personal energy.

Um, and my own bouts of depression came from learning about Reiki and integrating into my life, into my career, into my. Relationships. And so, uh, around her really dripping wet question of, are there gatherers that are trying to be hunters, especially in the community. Of like the alternative, like healing arts.

It's very interesting. You'll see this manifest, uh, and coaching the coaching industry as well. When it's between coaching and the healing arts. I see this a lot where people are afraid to charge for what they're passionate about. There's like this very clear, um, mental image. That they have of themselves that does not include receiving payment for what they're passionate about of like, oh, I would do this for free all day.

So I do, and I call it a business, like with

Katie: or I was born with the gift and I feel bad.

Sensei Victoria: like this is so that

Jeffrey: not a business model. That's not a business model.

Sensei Victoria: no, it's not. I was just talking to my friend, uh, yesterday while I was like, I just got back from Florida. I'm in New Jersey now. It's like, Sub-Zero here. It was like warm and lovely there. We were just talking about this, um, artist in Venter. Creative syndrome. It's like the artist inventor creative syndrome where, because I created a thing. That means I have a business or because I love this thing that I created the re like my love of it makes me a successful business owner. Like the money money has absolutely nothing. There's this it's really interesting to see this kind of syndrome and it's, um, and it becomes even like a, a self-image that.

Emboldened with righteousness, uh, of I'm I'm gathering, I'm gathering. Self-esteem I'm not hunting. And, you know, closing clients and solving problems. I'm not that's too. Hmm. I'm going to gender. That's too masculine. Like you need to know that, like, and I'm not talking male or female, I'm talking masculine feminine.

So I, I'm not going into the hunter because that's too harsh. That's too masculine. That's Ooh. You know, I'm instead, this is about me and myself and likes. followers, uh, hundreds of thousands of followers, no money. I mean, it's just like, what are you doing? And I love you. And well, really? Like what are you doing?

Jeffrey: Yeah, right, right. You speak to a lot of the shadow side of. Uh, of being a person, right. Embracing that shadow side. Is this what you're kind of talking about right now? Where there's this,

Sensei Victoria: is

Jeffrey: uh, shadow side to entrepreneurship maybe? Or, um, can you speak to that a little bit?

Sensei Victoria: Yeah, for sure. So the gift of the shadow is contrast and contrast, really highlights what we need to focus on, right? The greater, the contrast, the greater, the focused. And so that's why shadow work is really important. When we think about that syndrome of like the inventor artist, right? The creator syndrome, um, in entrepreneurship where we're just gathering likes, gathering approval of self and others.

There's a, there's this fear of the. Contrast, right. Or how do you say maybe the challenge of dealing with a fear of money or dealing with a fear of visibility? There's that fear of that and the dark side of entrepreneurship, right. To really piggyback on what you're asking, because that was really dripping as well. Is that, uh, is well there's, there's the performance. Aspect of marketing, uh, and talking about oneself of, okay, I'm going to spin this as I have a business versus the reality of, Hey, so what was your revenue last year? Uh, the there's that I would also have to say is, uh, the, uh, really. Yeah, thank you. The word that I just heard, uh, to say intuitively is this problem of authenticity that comes with portrayal and social media and in marketing, trying to create an air of credibility and confidence.

And, but where is the backing behind that? And then occupy. The space between really serving people and just getting off the ground or just trying to feel valid because there's there's, those are two very different things. From what I've found with entrepreneurs, there are some people who believe like Tony says, uh, Tony Robbins, one of my teachers that the learning never stops.

Okay. So when, when are you enough so that you can go teach. Do you need another certification and another certification? This is where coach a holism comes in is another form of addiction in the entrepreneurial community. From what I've seen,

Jeffrey: Do you feel like that's led by a kind of a self doubt perspective where it's like, unless I have all the certificates, then I'll be able to teach somebody else how to help or help somebody.

Sensei Victoria: somebody.

else. Yeah. And I would be even spooky. it then self-doubt, I would say it's actually very profitable for you to doubt yourself very profitable. It is not for you, not for you.

It's for whoever you're paying. Right.

Jeffrey: Ray,

Sensei Victoria: Whoever's getting you to invest in yourself. Um, like if you can't integrate the investments that you've made in yourself, then. This is a loss. This is not an like the return on investment is no bueno.

Jeffrey: yeah, yeah. Said another way. It's very expensive to have self-doubt.

Sensei Victoria: yeah. Yeah.

Katie: So I want to hear like, on the opposite end of that, like the intuition side, you know, I mean, we, we often hear the generality that women have better intuition than men. I don't know if I think that's actually true, but anyway, I do think that everybody has intuition. Um, how do you go about like teaching that, um, it's, you know, your book was saying you have a proven method.

Like, I dunno if you can sum that up in some way, but tell me about your, your method.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. absolutely. And I'm glad that you're asking this Katie, because it dovetails beautifully, um, in the topic of. The profitability of doubting yourself of it's very profitable for other people to feel in secure.

And so this is. Going into intuition now, as a way out of being locked into that hamster wheel of, of self doubt and now not enough or, or, or the too much, it's the, not enough and too much a hamster wheel. Just keep going, going, going, like what is a way out? And the difference I would have to say is that when you're on that hamster wheel of I'm never enough and I'm too much, right.

Always trying to. Really go to the next level and the next level and the next certification, et cetera, is because the idea of truth or authority is externally defined. And that's essentially what we learn from going through standardized education is that an a plus is what is valid. If you don't get anything else, you're an idiot.

You're invalid. You know, try again, argue with your professor, do whatever you gotta do in order to be valid. Um, whereas intuition is it's. Comes from the inside. It's the sense of intrinsically defined truth or authority. Um, and in my process for helping people connect to their intuition, it all really starts with listening, listening, because this is your natural birthright as a.

Human being right, or rather as a mammal on planet earth, not even as a human being, right, because there's, Um, service dogs are brilliant examples of how a powerful intuition can save lives and solve problems. And. Well we're humans. We got that too. Right. So if your dog can, can Intuit things. So can you, uh, but dogs are really excellent with their intuition because they're listing.

They're connected to their senses. And so when I start, uh, helping people work on their natural intuition, we tune into the five senses and that really helps them listen in five different ways, minimum right. Sight sound, taste, touch, smell, AKA pay attention as listening. And from there, shifting the story around what's coming in through your senses, your sensory receptors.

Around. Claiming that as your perception, right? In your experience of what's going on, really writing your story. And from there, the more that you begin to write your story in relationship to the things that you are experiencing, your intuition will naturally start to just come through. Right? That's why.

You know, especially with people who come and work with me, they're like, oh, I see 11, 11 all the time, or 3 33 on the clock. Um, or I saw like my grandmother's birthday, like they have, so they're seeing numbers, but that they created a story around what that means. And, but at the same time that awake. More information coming through.

That's in alignment with that story. And so it all starts with listening and feeling. Um, and I really encourage people to do it through the five senses, sight sound, taste, touch, smell. Are you paying attention? And as another side note again, to be a little creepy it's. Profitable for you to not pay attention to what are the signs and stories of what's going on for your environment.

It's very, very profitable, not for you, but for whoever you're paying to tell you what that means. And so that I feel is a really powerful first step people can take. And that's in the book in developing their natural intuition is changing the way that you listen.

Katie: Yeah, I think that's, uh, uh, it's such a remarkable tool. Everyone has it, not everyone uses it. And, um, yeah, it's like, it's free. Like, you know, because to your point, I agree, I'm a business coach, so I see people hiring and hiring again and hiring again. And I hear the sob stories because I also do sales for other.

I, I overcome the objection of I've already hired for this and it didn't work and I'm not afraid of this, or I'm afraid this won't work again. Right. So I, I see that. And then I always call it the, um, belief that you have to have several different letters after your name, before you're quote unquote, ready, you know, and you know, I always say like, you're ready.

As soon as you say. There's not a degree out there. It's going to tell you, you know, that you're ready or not. Like I would talk to people that were in life coaching school. And so they couldn't learn sales until after they completed life coaching school. And I was. Bull, can learn sales skills right now.

You don't need a certificate from a made up school online to deem you worthy of receiving money for your services. Right. So anyway, but, and so I think that the intuition part is that inner knowing of I am ready. And when we give people permission to really tune into. Um, they just do, they do so much better.

And the way I business coach, I always say, it's a choose your own adventure. I just guide you, but I'm not going to project what I think. I mean, I'll, I'll tell you what I think you should do, but if you say no, that doesn't fit, I want to do this instead. I'm like, great. Let's do.

Sensei Victoria: do. that.

Katie: Right. Like, I want their intuition to guide the way, and then I can be the one with the advice and the knowledge and the history to, you know, to guide them on that way.

But I think if they're not tapping into their intuition as busy business owners, they're, they're missing the boat, they're missing the mark and it's like, they're not living their true purpose and all of that. So I was so excited to get on this podcast with you because I can see. You know, that it sounds like that's what you're helping people do.

I'm curious, you have all these modalities that you work with, including Reiki and like w how do you, you know, like, can people get like a one-off session with you and you're like done done, and this is what you should be doing, or, know, how do you really help people?

Sensei Victoria: Yeah, I have my good, like, if I could do the thing where you pull all the answers out of the hat for someone in one session. Oh

Jeffrey: us about your magic

Katie: I keep looking for that person myself.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. Well, I have plenty of crystal wands, uh, but that's just because I'm a, like, I'm literally a gem and mineral collector. That's not because I'm like new. I used to be, but I realized that my story about the Lulu. For those of you who can't see what I'm doing. I'm like spinning a crystal in, in the air.

Like my story about that crystal was more important than the other person's story. And

Jeffrey: Um,

Sensei Victoria: becoming aware of the power of what people think, right? The power of positive thinking and helping people think differently and think for themselves, just like, like you were saying, Katie, giving people a sense of personal autonomy, um, and encouraging.

To pursue their personal freedom in their mind, uh, is, is what it's really about. And so Yeah. people could come and, uh, like I, uh, I'm busier than I used to be. Like, it used to be like, oh yeah, free session. Like kind of, you know, in the early them I'm in year 12 of my business, you know, I have a team of 30, so.

I used to be able to like, Yeah.

hop on the phone, free session, kind of a thing, a to test me out. I, I recommend if people want to get their, um, their clarity box. From your is truly an or in a, maybe in a more colloquial version of that. If they're looking for the lady at the mall with the free samples, you know, so that they could walk back by And have the, like the chicken several times to see like, yeah, I'm going to buy that chicken.

If you're looking for that, like the best way is to come to one of my meditation classes, because how I lead meditation is. Different in that we do strategic meditation. Um, strategic meditation is meditation done first before a targeted action is being taken specifically to imbue it with the power of focus.

Right so that you are fully present for whatever action you're about to take. So, uh, usually when people hear about like attending a meditation class or coming to see like a Reiki master, a spiritual healer, they come with like their PJ's on like ready to was meditate. I'm gonna go straight to sleep.

Can't wait. And yes, feel people will fall asleep even in my meditation. I'm like, yo, but the difference is that when you take a nap, listening to mili and a meditation versus others, is that when you wake up from that nap, you'll have an experience like one of my former clients, Joe, Biba where he can't, he.

It was laying on the floor with, in his sleeping bag.

got up. It was at one of our live retreats and he's like, I just had the best sleep of my life. And I just found $90,000. I was like, all right.

Katie: Whew.

Sensei Victoria: He was like, we were all just happy to hear that. for A and the one thing that he kept saying is I got to find the money.

I got a funny, he owns a construction company. Like what the heck is a construction dude? Like doing in a meditation retreat with like some Reiki master coach, lady like me, what in the world, but Joseph amazing. That's what he's doing. You know, he's

an amazing guy. Men are very intuitive by the way. It's just depends on the person.

Um, and also society teaches men to suppress their intuition. Like it's.

Jeffrey: A hundred percent.

Sensei Victoria: Oh, Jeff. Am I talking? Talking, right? Yeah.

Jeffrey: Oh my God.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. So somebody like, I believe that somebody's got to advocate for our sisters as well as our brothers rising up. And so that like meditating in a certain way, that helps bring you present.

And here I can explain why, because no. I didn't stage Joe being there and his sleeping bag and then outcomes like a pile of cash to be like, yeah, we're going to put this in the funnel. Like this is going to be, this is going to be a slam and Facebook ad. No,

Jeffrey: You too can find $90,000 in your sleeping bag. Just sign up today.

Sensei Victoria: Fast action bonus, right? Ah, Yeah. no. And by the way, Russell Brunson is also one of my teachers is amazing, man, but it's yeah, no, we got Billy how that happened was blood and oxygen and that was it. Blood and oxygen. What am I talking about here? When I say blood and oxygen? So. Your brain, the thing that you think with as well as your gut, the other brain that you think with these things need blood and oxygen in order to function properly.

And when we're sitting all crunched. At our desks, right? Um, nine to nine, because if anyone's nine to five, you're not an entrepreneur baby. Like, so.

Jeffrey: talk about seven to midnight from, for me for a long, long time.

Sensei Victoria: Exactly.

Jeffrey: Yeah, Not anymore.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah, So like if we're sitting crunched up all the time or we're frying our rods and cones in our eyeballs, staring at screens like these, uh, on laptops phones, um, or like command centers of screens, like my brother has like seven screens in front of him when he's trying to write an email, um, What happens is that your body, um, your, your human animal body, like this flesh is under stress. Um, and when it's under stress, it clenches up and limits blood and oxygen flow. To your brain and your gut. That's why, when you're going go and go, and you may forget to pee or eat it's because the blood and oxygen has gone away. Uh, and it's rerouted to different other vital organs to keep you in performance mode, running from the cheetah of the bills you're trying to close sales to pay.

And so what happens is when you meditate in a certain way, or when John. Meditated in the certain way that we did it restored the blood and oxygen flow so that he could get into the part of his brain that does creative problem solving, right. And associative thinking, connective thinking where, how he found $90,000.

He was a contract, God find cash to finance, blah, blah, blah, for the construction of the year. Lo and behold in his meditation while I was guiding through like seeing solutions and things, he saw that in his front yard, he had a few pieces of equipment that he could sell for 30 grand each, a few backhoes, no problem, real fast.

And he was like, I don't use them. I've been joking for years. We have such expensive lawn equipment. So what you're not using, get that cash and put it where it needs to go. Right. And flip it and get some more money back so we can get what you actually do need to use. And that's how he found $90,000. It didn't come out of a sleeping bag or kind of did if you want to think of it as blood and oxygen, but that's the power of strategic meditation is like, okay, the action that needed to get done is find some money.

Right. We need cashflow. And so we're going to strategically meditate first to clear the way so that you're in an optimal state, right. A flow state as Mihai chick sent me. I, and the book flow would say, Rachel, that you're functioning at an optimal level and then go into finding the money rather than just running, you know, Crazy into it.

We had like a headless chicken. You're going to have headless chicken results because Yeah. You don't have blood and oxygen go into your brain. Does that make sense?

Jeffrey: Yeah. So how does strategic meditation differ from, I don't know, I guess other meditation, like how, how was it? What makes it so strategic?

Sensei Victoria: well, for one. With that previous definition I gave you, it is meditation done first before a targeted. So like positioning of the meditation is key. Um, first off. And then secondly, how I lead a strategic? meditation is based in a wonderful practice called shamonic vision journey meditation. Uh, and this is essentially a tech.

That is structured so that every time you go through visualizing a certain set of images in your mind, just using your imagination, you're making it all up. But every time you visualize the set set of images in succession, you get answers. time. So it's meant To be an active meditation. Passive meditation is like, you're on a beach and it's relaxing and you're asleep, flying through outer space or something, whatever those kinds of like those meditation serve to calm you down, check you out, tune you out.

Whereas entrepreneurs and leaders that need to be calm that well, maybe, but like you,

Jeffrey: To a

Sensei Victoria: tuned in. Yeah. If, if you're doing this strategically of like, okay, give me something that can give me answers. And for some people they will do this in a way. They will do strategic meditation using different techniques, such as prayer. Right?

If they come from a religious sort of background of like, or I'm a Lord, please show me what's the right next step, blah, blah, blah. And keep praying, banging on the doors of heaven until something pops out. Um, or there's also going for a run. All right. I need to figure things out. I need to just, I'm just going to go for a run to relax and hello, blood and oxygen. I.

Jeffrey: blood and oxygen. There's a lot going on there when you're.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. Yeah.

And then it'll, it will come to me. So there's, there's many, many, many different kinds of meditation that can inspire someone to have some insights. I really love the practice that I use for short vision journeying because it's, it's structured and it gets an answer every single time, every

Jeffrey: um, what's the time commitment for one of those sessions?

Sensei Victoria: So for one, you need to learn how to do it. So. There is a training versus let's say like, uh, an individual CIT of like, all right, I'm going to do it. So training. Um, one-on-one I can do as fast as about maybe 20 minutes. Um, yeah, I like to couch it more in like a three hour. Give you the whole enchilada, but if someone's like, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.

I just want to try it. Give me 20 minutes and you will be crying at my feet.

Jeffrey: Ah, nice.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. Give it 20 minutes or less. Yeah. And that's why like every Thursday night. Um, 7:00 PM Eastern. That's why I lead a, another vision journey meditation. And those are like the Thursday nights are the ones that any, if anyone wants to try it out or learn about it, um, they can come to those on zoom and, and try it out.

I think, wow, that was awesome. Are all Right, And I'm running for my life and never coming back. Yeah. So, but the, the time commitment is as little as 20 minutes, three hours, if you're like, um, fighting, kicking and screaming and interested in history. So I would say that I do an annual two day retreat on the foundations of the practice as well.

Um, but for an actual individual. I would say I would give it five to 15 minutes. And here's why, um, varying. It's because half of a CIT is writing it down like this meditation. It it's like a dream. If you don't write it down, as soon as you, as you can, it'll poof, like you'll lose all of the insight. And so I include that as part of the steps of like effectively doing the meditation.

So five to 15 minutes, you're doing like a really short journey and five like two and a half. Of like tuning in if you are advanced, uh, and can really go through the images quickly and listen. Um, on average, my clients tend to a lot about 15 minutes per sit, 10 minutes of going through the images and getting the insights and then five minutes of writing it out so that they have, um, what answers they got from their sit.

Jeffrey: Wow, that's awesome.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. So not a lot of time.

Jeffrey: Yeah. Wow. Most people here. You got to meditate for like an hour, a day, every day or two hours a day.

Katie: Yeah. And if you don't have time double it, right?

Jeffrey: Exactly. I heard that if you don't have time to meditate for an, for an hour and meditate for two hours

Katie: Yeah.

Sensei Victoria: I don't think that's feasible for the entrepreneurs entrepreneurial personality type.

Jeffrey: right, right,

Sensei Victoria: we have an, a nice little dose of add naturally in this like a hunter personalities though. If you don't get to the point, we're going to imagine another problem to solve and like go on to that, or imagine another thing to come up with and go on to that.

So like, It's. Yeah.

no, like let the kid in class that's squirming, you know, go and do whatever he needs to do. He's listening while he's building with the blocks. Like that's, it's not that he's trying to ignore you. It's just the way that he focuses his.

Jeffrey: Hmm, gosh. Yeah, that's a whole nother topic of education reform that we don't have time for today, but.

Katie: it. I'm all about education reform. 17 years educating. Yeah.

Sensei Victoria: Amen.

Katie: Oh, my God. It it's like I, um, I used to say, you know, they need to shut down every school in the nation for an entire year. I don't even think a year as long enough, but for an entire year so that the teachers and the staff can really.

It upside down and just do things differently. And then COVID happened and I'm like, well, I got, I kinda got half my wish, but now the teachers have to work double time to try to still educate these kiddos on zoom. Um, I have not thanked God so many times in a year, then that initial year where I was like, I'm so glad I hung up my hat from that, from that journey.

Sensei Victoria: Wow. Well, timed.

Katie: Um, but, you know, but I, so I couldn't agree more. It's just, everybody has different personalities and learning styles and ways of doing things. And that's another part of my coaching is, um, the people that feel the guilt and the shame around, like we have a client. You know, that kind of put, put us on pause and she had good reason to put us on parts.

And then, you know, when we were reaching back out and she said she had all this guilt and shame around having put us on pause and we were like, it's okay to press the pause button, but our educational society. I feel like you got to keep going, keep going right grade 1, 2, 3, 4, all the way to 12, then through college, then some of you are going to go right for your master's and it's like, it's okay to push the pause button or do things differently.

You know, it's okay. If you're a little. So, um, and, and I that's, you know, I loved, um, your story just around like how entrepreneurs are different. Right. And, um, and, and the, the well-meaning friends and family in our life, when they see us stressed out and they're like, why don't you just kinda get your shit together and go get a job.

Sensei Victoria: get a job?

Katie: And it's like, it's so defeating because they don't get you. They don't see you. They don't understand, you know what you're. Yeah. And, oh, it's so frustrating. So I'm so glad there are people out like you out there that are supporting, um, these people that are going through, you know, some real mental health stuff, but there's like stories made up in their head and, you know, just to let it, let it go, you know, let it be. I love that. And I'm just a huge fan of intuition. I remember when I first, um, was doing my, uh, learning about business and sales stuff. Um, I've been in business 10 years. Um, and, uh, so I was in a community with a whole bunch of spiritual, you know, holistic practitioners, spiritual entrepreneurs, energy healers, and I was a school teacher.

And so I didn't, this is a whole new side of stuff and I would have. Them so much power. I'd be like, oh, they have a crystal in their pocket. They know what the F they're talking about. Right. Like I just gave them too much power in my head cause I didn't understand it. And then as I started develop my own intuition or accept that I had intuition and you know, and then I would say something like, I think, I think my intuition in my friends would be like, girl, you've had it all along.

You've just been, not listening. it was so healing for me to, to know that, um, I didn't have to deem myself as an energy healer in order to know that I have intuition and I can use it. So that's what I want our listeners to understand today. Like if they take one thing away, it's that you have the power of your own mind to, to sort out your stuff.

And there's great stages and guides along the way, but your, the leader.

Jeffrey: you don't need a degree to use your intention.

Katie: Yeah.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. no, it's your kingdom. It's your kingdom. Take the throne. It's your kingdom take the throne. No one has to give it to you. You don't have to earn it. It's already your kingdom, but this is where we're waiting for you to take the throne. And as a side note, everyone, before we hit the record, Katie and Jeff were awesome.

Like asking like, oh, do we call you Victoria or sensei? And I said, Victoria, and like, to the point. What you just said, Katie, where it's like, oh, you're a healer. And they're like, you're put up on this pedestal of like, you've achieved some sort of listen I'm I am flesh and blood. I cough and fart just like everybody else.

We've been dealt the same chips, just because like, I've studied this over here for myself, right. Uh, to a certain level. Doesn't make me superior to you. This is me being superior for me. Against me, right? Cause where I've come from in my own journey, that's what I'm competing with. Not, not with you. And I hope that you are not competing with me.

So for each person to really take the throne of their own kingdom, the kingdom being their lives, right? The kingdom being your body, your mind, your presence here on earth. That's a choice. That comes from within and when you take it, there's all the power that's been there the whole time. It's fabulous. So Yeah.

Jeffrey: Hmm, this is awesome. Victoria,

Katie: that? What

Glenda, the good witch said something like you've had the power within you all along my dear, right?

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. Oh my God. The red shoes will get her walking on wizard of Oz and this red brick road. This is awesome. Look at it's like there's 10 men. There's a, like a lion guy and all this. This is really pretty far out. And then we got to figure out how to get home, walking around with it on the whole time.

Jeffrey: There it

Sensei Victoria: Yeah, just look down.

Jeffrey: That would've been a short movie though.

She lands it on. She's like, oh, well, where the heck am I? I'll just use my shoes to go home. Okay. I'm back.

Katie: Right. That it would be like, life would be very boring if we had all the answers right from the beginning. Right.

Sensei Victoria: it's true. Oh my God. I love it.

Jeffrey: Victoria, what, what can people do to start, start off with this and where, where do people begin to tap into their intuition and to start developing this muscle? If you will, if

Sensei Victoria: Hmm. .Yeah. So, um, I'm hearing guidance to say, well, if they heard you ask that question, they already began. So don't worry about like, all right, this is something new. I need to start a no. Already started. If you listened this far in this podcast, high five, you

are ahead of the curve. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the right next steps on this journey, I, um, Hmm.

I'm being guided to say first off, decide that this is something that is meaningful to you. Outside of anyone else's approval of it or validation or judgment of it. Um, outside of any other person's story, like the first step I'm hearing to say is decide that this is important to you and that you do have an intuition and you want to find it when you decide.

When you, when you really make it yours, it will come to you all of the resources that you need naturally. And I have an abundance mindset. So that means, I believe that it's not just us Right? here, but it's everything around. You will mobilize to realize that decision and support you in that path. And if you know, people are listening, they're resonating and say, I like the strict, she seems cool. Really great. Next step I would say has come to one of the Thursdays, if you can come and try out that meditation. Now, if you then, um, is it okay if I share the URL for that, where to find that?


Jeffrey: for sure.

Sensei Victoria: So that's at Victoria whitfield.com forward slash meditate. Right? So if you want to try meditating with sensei, Victoria, Whitfield, you go to Victoria with Phil DACA board slash meditate.

It's really easy, but if you can't come to it's 7:00 PM Eastern, uh, Thursday nights, if you can't make that, then the book. Really does a good job. And I made it small. Like the book is less than 70 pages because I don't want to waste people's time. This is more of actually a reference manual of like, okay, I want to, what do I do?

Like Victoria, just tell me what to do. Open the book. It will tell you precisely what to do. The things that I've repeated, like a hundred billion, billion. Are all in that book, natural intuition now. And you can get that on Amazon two days and bam, it'll be right there on your doorstep. Um, and many people, uh, who read the books, they read it in a day and it's absolutely incredible.

Right. It's really changed the way that they see themselves and their world around them. Um, and don't just, Yeah.

Thank you. Um, receiving guidance to say, don't just read the book. Do it don't just read it don't oh, even even better. I just heard to say don't just buy it this is, yeah. Hello, shelf help.

Right? Transformational coaching graveyard shelf, like, oh, we're all of the books gather dust to look like you've done some of that. I can't tell you how many entrepreneurs I know in like. Who are, who are like, I'm talking about a book that I read like, oh Yeah. you read launch by Jeff Walker. Like, Yeah, But did you read it and did you actually do what he says?

Well, no, you know, I'm I'm busy, you know, I'm actually reading a lot of books and you're not actually reading them. They're just stacked.

Katie: I'm waiting till I'm ready.

Sensei Victoria: Just decide, just decide like, okay, I will read this book, but I haven't read Victoria's book. I'm going to prove that I don't just buy books in order to be smart. I actually like go through them and do the work so that it can work on me. Like the work works. If you do it.

Jeffrey: Amen.

Sensei Victoria: Yeah. So that is, that's what I would say.

I either come to Thursday night, um, so that in 20 minutes you could be crying at my feet or, uh, get the book. And in one day you'll be crying and at someone else's feet while holding my book,

Katie: Well, that's awesome. We'll put those links in the show notes so people can find those easily. And, um, who knows, maybe you'll see Jeffrey and meet one of your Thursday meetings.

Jeffrey: I don't do a lot of crime, but we'll see,

Sensei Victoria: challenge

Katie: crying for the both of


Jeffrey: Yeah. Yeah. Christ devil.

Katie: I'm a very emotional human being. I can't, I can't avoid it.

Sensei Victoria: Good.

Jeffrey: My wife calls me spark.

Sensei Victoria: Well, you will live long and prosper. Excellent.

Katie: That's what we plan.

Jeffrey: Oh man. Victoria, is there anything, uh, you want to add to this podcast before we wrap it up to, to call it?

Sensei Victoria: Whenever I'm asked that question. I cannot help, but just celebrate, like, I want to celebrate the both of you and give honor and praise to both of your showing up with your full hearts, how patient you were with me and trying to finagle the things at the beginning, um, and bringing all of your creativity, your joy, your, uh, opinionated.

As well as I want to Thank you.

on behalf of the marginalized people who you give voice to, like, I want to honor you for creating this platform for giving voice to those. Who've been marginalized, forgotten, suppressed, um, and oppressed. Standards and systems, right. That are profiting off of that differential that doesn't even really exist.

No one is above or below in spiritual truth. I just want to give honor and praise to both of you with so much gratitude and, uh, for our listeners, like my last closing message to all of you is please remember to enjoy the journey. You do not have to lose your glow as you grow in life and business.

Jeffrey: love that. I love that. Uh, thank you, sensei Victoria, for joining us and sharing your wisdom. And thank you everyone for joining us. Uh, if you enjoy this episode, please leave us a five star review. Hit that subscribe button and, uh, write us a few words. Um, you can check out all the show notes and how to connect with Victoria.

Grab her book, get the meditation. Join her world at the launch squad, lab.com forward slash episode 60. We'll see you next time.

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